Pic request for firewall

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Pic request for firewall

Post by 43tutor » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:47 pm

I would like to see some photos of the the firewall area and under hood images for 71-72 SSP's or Roadrunners. I'm in the process of restoring my 72 SSP engine bay and I would like to get the paint colors as close as possible.

I need to see things like the wiper motor (my is a 3 speed), brake booster, etc...

I'm trying to detail as much as possible. The previous owner just painted everything mounted on the firewall and fenders black, even the wiring harness. Now I'm in the process of cleaning the black paint off everything and planning to return it back to original color(s). My car is a TX9 black car but I know some of the items under the hood where painted different colors.

Pictures will be a big help.

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Re: Pic request for firewall

Post by 71_bronze_gtx » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:30 pm

First off, it might be a good idea to find and buy a copy of a Road Runner Restoration Guide. I found one on Amazon for a very reasonable price not long ago.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... estoration

Roseville Moparts in Michigan would be a good source of info and, I believe, even actual paint for under-hood paints. Check out their website.

http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/index.p ... th/347_138

If all-out originality is your goal, it's important to get the right percentage of gloss content in satin or semi-gloss paints. Hard to tell this from pics alone.

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Re: Pic request for firewall

Post by 71_bronze_gtx » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:56 am

On second thought, scratch the restoration guide book - it's black and white and doesn't say much about paint colors. I have and e-body book that goes into great detail on this subject, and it's reasonable to assume the bees follow the same pattern.

I'm attaching a pic of a survivor-car 71 SSP. This pic is greatly reduced. The original is 4000 x 3000 pixels and shows a fair amount of detail. If you think it would help, I can send it to your private email account. Send me a private message.

WTF. I can get any pics to upload at the moment. Send private message and I'll send you the file. It's over 5 MB size.

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Re: Pic request for firewall

Post by 71bird » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:39 pm

Really the only way to get the wiper motor and brake booster right is to send them off to be striped and re plated.
71 Road Runner - J68

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Re: Pic request for firewall

Post by 71_bronze_gtx » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:35 am

According to the restoration guide, wiper motors were all gloss black. Brake boosters gets sketchier. There were two different units made by Midland Ross, depending on brake drum sizes. Midland Ross units use a ring clamp to hold the two halves of the booster together. Bendix units have crimps around the outside. Midland Ross units appear to have been cadmium plated. Can't find anything on the Bendix unit. I have seen spray-on products that simulated the plating. Check at Eastwood.com. Don't know how authentic it looks.

Maybe the way to proceed is to ask about each piece specifically. Not many responses so far- maybe because a lot of cars are put away for winter. They'll be out soon, including mine.

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Re: Pic request for firewall

Post by Eric » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:31 am

Survivors are the best source for correct finishes, even then some service parts may have been replaced. I would focus on 72s to find the most accurate finishes for your car. 72 SSP survivor

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Re: Pic request for firewall

Post by 71_bronze_gtx » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:21 pm

Duh, don't know why I was looking for 1971 info for you. Brain dead.

Eric is right. Unfortunately, there is very little published info about restoring Plymouth b-bodies made after 71.

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Re: Pic request for firewall

Post by Eric » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:52 pm

Another low mile 72 Satellite...apparently cars painted GY4 didn't leave the garage very often :lol:

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