roadrunner?

Post by **bruce** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:26 pm

Eric wrote: Some day, we'll get an official registry set up on a website....

We're all holding our collective breath, right Eric?

altyfam · Post by **altyfam** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:11 pm

eric, by the way ,the first vin Igave was the correct one R1 106823 in another paragraph I was dsylexic (R1106328)
also ,do a certain number of model come in series by vin example so many gtxs then so many sattelites etc thanks Dave

71GTX · Post by **71GTX** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:48 am

Alty,
Here is a question for ya....does the last six digits on the cowl, match, number for number, the last six digits on the title or the VIN??

altyfam · Post by **altyfam** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:11 pm

Eric, I know this may sound repetitive , but ,this car was sold to me as a1972 sattelite , the numbers on the body do not match the vin on the dash the body is a1971 in curiuos yellow , just picture if you will a curious yellow b body minus drivetrain and interior and refitted with a bogus 1974 318 ci motor and 1974 blue interior this is how I got this car.

Post by **Eric** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:34 pm

altyfam wrote:eric, by the way ,the first vin Igave was the correct one R1 106823 in another paragraph I was dsylexic (R1106328)
also ,do a certain number of model come in series by vin example so many gtxs then so many sattelites etc thanks Dave

I've seen runners and GTXs with VINs very close together, but I can't say whether the factory ran them in batches. I doubt they did though. There really wasn't much difference to cause them to need to.

71GTX · Post by **71GTX** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:09 am

altyfam wrote:what I guess I did not make clear perhaps , is that it was discovered that this car is indeed a 1971 vehicle with swapped out bumpers ,interior etc the side marker lights are flush not protruding.

Sounds like you may not only have bumpers, interior, etc swapped out on it....sounds like the VIN plate and title did a swap as well....If your title, VIN plate and fender tag do not match the numbers on the cowl or those on the radiator support, I would do some serious looking into the car....you may have a rebodied car, and could be looking at some serious federal offenses....Contact the previous owner, if possible to find out some info on this....Why would anyone choose to make a Satellite from a Roadrunner(No offense to my Satellite owner brothers and sisters!)....unless there is an alterior motive

If the car was truly a 1971 Roadrunner, the VIN should have been,
RM23?1R106823, RS23?1R106823 if it was a GTX or RH/RL23?1R106823 if it was a 1971 Satellite.

It sounds as if you may have some legal issues with this car, and I would do some investigation into this some more before doing anymore restoration on it....Good luck on this....

71440 gtx · Post by **71440 gtx** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:34 am

, RS23N1R106823

n is 383 it is a u for 440 in 71 gtx

71GTX · Post by **71GTX** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:09 am

71440 gtx wrote:, RS23N1R106823 n is 383 it is a u for 440 in 71 gtx

Absolutely....my bad....I was only thinking 383....Corrected too....

altyfam · Post by **altyfam** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:17 am

well, it appears I may have opened up a gigantic can of worms with this one (curious yellow in color ). I have met alot of honest and well meaning , people in this hobby . (3 trips to mopar nats in avehicle of mopar variety that 4 of us worked on for months just for that trip the brotherhood exhibited was second to none) That being said , there are always going to be a few bad apples that spoil the bunch ,. If this car was rebodied and the numbers used on another car , well , thats not only unethical but highly illegal. but , I digress , as now my enthusiasm has turned to horror . Is it possible that there is another b body driving around with my vin ? because if so then that makes 2 bogus cars. I guess it should be a lesson toprospective buyers to be vigilant about checking numbers. If ,I can not contact the previous owner then what is my next move ? Any help would be appreciated . Thanks , Dave

71440 gtx · Post by **71440 gtx** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:01 pm

This is crap I really hate hearing about. Sorry it had to happen to you. This is why there's a board like this, to help people verify what they're buying and give tips.

1) Is there a VIN number on the door that matches the rest of those numbers? If so then you can get an ownershi made up without the VIN tag on the dash..
2) Find a numbers matching sattelite and put all your parts on it and cut up the car you have.
3) Get into a major legal battle that may or may not resolve your problem. :

altyfam · Post by **altyfam** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:23 pm

now, that ,I assume you meant on the drivers door as there are 3 layers of paint , including the original curious , am I looking for a plate , engravement , or sticker ? If so, where approximately ? thanks , Dave.

Post by **Eric** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:32 pm

The car is what it is now. I can't imagine the numbers were used on another car. Why would anyone do that if the body on your car is decent? Does it have a skid plate on the K frame or torque boxes that a 440+6 or hemi car would have?
My guess is this happened a long time ago when these cars were not valuable, only used cars. Someone had a satellite that was totalled and they found a junkyard shell 71 runner and transferred all the good parts unfortunately including the dash. I can't imagine you getting into a legal battle over someone finding out the car is actually a runner instead of a satellite.

altyfam · Post by **altyfam** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:53 pm

eric , good point , and good use of common sense as well. there are no torque boxes or skid plates . what started out as interesting forum question is now turning into alegal question unintentionaly. the car is what it is ,so I will heed those words. but, on another note were torque boxes used on convertibles? Could someone make a 71 sattelite into a ragtop ? too late , someone already did , I have seen it in a shop . no kidding , quite clever indeed.

71GTX · Post by **71GTX** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:49 pm

Please don't interpret my posts as being confrontational, but as trying to possibly save you some money or time. I just don't want to see someone throw a bunch of dollars into something that they could get into some trouble with. You can get alot of help here with trying to get this figured out....

Alaskan_TA · Post by **Alaskan_TA** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:03 pm

The number one reason that someone would swap VIN numbers years ago was to take numbers from a wrecked car with a clean title and swap the clean numbers onto a stolen car.

Before you put any more money into it, have your local law enforcement agency run the partial VIN you found to see if the car was stolen.

Best of luck with it,
Barry

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