Newer "Mopars"

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:59 pm

Exactly why i people should stop comparing them.
there is no comparison!

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:01 pm

i think it's kinda obvious i stand out on that one...my 71 was my daily driver in high school, but my long commutes to college, etc. would have broke me on gas...but no that i only live about 4 miles from work and my "new, fuel efficient mustang" only gets like 10 or 15 in town, i may hafta start drivin the satty this summer
...and i still beat the crap out of it, cuz that's what it is...power...if something did happen to it, i reckon i'd put on fiberglass body panels, paint it flat black(not primer) and do a custom...if it were the motor...oh well, that means more "i wanna go fast" parts for it

RS23-71 · Post by **RS23-71** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:17 pm

Well if they ever made a new version of 2009 GTX and did it right (unlike a 4 door charger

) as long as it is heavily design based on the '71 I would be so into that.

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:20 pm

I agree,IF* they do it right,but sadly i dont think that will ever happen.To many reasons.

RS23-71 · Post by **RS23-71** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:27 pm

Smellslike1974 wrote:I agree,IF* they do it right,but sadly i dont think that will ever happen.To many reasons.

Yes and they couldn't do it cause Plymouth no longer exists.

p.s. /me jumps for joy cause I just noticed that under my nickname it finally says GTX!!

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:27 pm

i saw a photochop of a 09 gtx made out of a challenger...looked pretty good, but plymouth is long gone (sadly)...they'd have to call it the Chrysler Satellite Sebring GTX

(since they make a sebring lol)

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:28 pm

RS23 '71 wrote: p.s. /me jumps for joy cause I just noticed that under my nickname it finally says GTX!!

lol hooray

on the mustang forum site, you have to have about a ZILLION posts to be considered knowledgeable because of all the stupid crap going on

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:42 pm

On the rating system they totaly skipped the sundance

billzilla · Post by **billzilla** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:53 pm

RS23 '71 wrote:Well you can not put down todays cars for more electronics and thinner sheetmetal cause would you want to pay for a car today if it had the same thickness steel as they did back then? The body alone would cost like 10x what it did then.

I'm not putting down newer cars - just saying they have thinner sheetmetal and are more likely to rust away than a car with much thicker metal body panels or frame.

All steel of the same grade rusts at the same rate the only thing that changes that is the elements that make up the steel. The coatings that is put on it and for as thin as the steel is now if it was the same grade as they used back then your newer cars would be lucky to last 10 yrs.

I'm sure coatings have come a ways. Still, when the coating wears off, you have metal that rusts. In fact, I've heard cars lately are being MADE to rust more quickly so that they don't sit in fields for years as they used to. I've actually heard enzymes are being introduced to metals to SPEED the degradation.

I mean back then buying one of our cars brand new for $3000-$4000 was expensive but nowadays ppl pay that for a rusted out hulk of the same car and spend 10x that to fix it up. Its still not a daily driver.

Totally. That blows my mind.

I'm not saying newer cars are 'inferior' somehow, but I do think that you will have far fewer 'barn finds' of 80's, 90's and 2000+ cars in another 30 or 40 years. Honestly, I think you'll still be finding 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's cars out in fields. The later cars will just be more trouble than they're worth with all the computer electronics, electric motors, brittle plastics, thin metals, etc. -- For the most part.

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:57 pm

billzilla wrote:I'm not saying newer cars are 'inferior' somehow, but I do think that you will have far fewer 'barn finds' of 80's, 90's and 2000+ cars in another 30 or 40 years. Honestly, I think you'll still be finding 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's cars out in fields. The later cars will just be more trouble than they're worth with all the computer electronics, electric motors, brittle plastics, thin metals, etc. -- For the most part.

EXACTLY...computers are replaced and considered inferior all the time...so what's going to happen when someone wants to restore a oh idk let's say a K Car (maybe those had early computers???), what will happen, they'll completely change everything to run on a basic carbureted engine and get rid of the computer. Several people, in IA at least, have done this numerous times to the 80s Monte Carlos, Buicks, Olds, Camaros, Mustangs, etc.

RS23-71 · Post by **RS23-71** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:05 am

billzilla wrote:The later cars will just be more trouble than they're worth with all the computer electronics, electric motors, brittle plastics, thin metals, etc. -- For the most part.

Kinda like trying to find rear quarters for '71-'74s?

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:11 am

RS23 '71 wrote:
billzilla wrote:The later cars will just be more trouble than they're worth with all the computer electronics, electric motors, brittle plastics, thin metals, etc. -- For the most part.
Kinda like trying to find rear quarters for '71-'74s?

lol just buy your challenger and give us feedback,thats all i ask

RS23-71 · Post by **RS23-71** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:13 am

Sure can you give me a loan? I promise I'm good for it............................lol

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:13 am

i was gonna wait for one, but got antsy and bought the mustang...i'd still buy one, but i don't even put it in the same class as a muscle car...it's just a performance car....

at teh same time i see the argument that it is a muscle car, cuz i'm sure if i was going to high school in the 60s/70s i'd pry be drivin a hot-rodded coupe or a lead sled with lake pipes, saying guys with the new fast cars didn't have real cruisers lol

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:14 am

Aw comon,but its so worth it right? I mean with the powerful*engine,and light metals,and unimportant assecories?:lol: