How many things just seem wrong in these pictures?
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In just the 1st few mins I seemed to spot 4 major things that seem wrong for a "This is a very rare, correct curious yellow on white with a black half vinyl top car!" Correct????
Rocker moldings where?
Upper interior door panels?
Orange turn signal lenses?
Hard to see if it even has a fender tag in those pics as well.
Ok anyone else?
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1971 GTX Autumn Bronze - 4 speed, Dana 60 4:10
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Its leaking anti freeze, 
I dont know much about gtx's but that all i noticed,except little things like,in different pics the handles were turn for nor reason,and the floormat disapeerd in one.
By the way,is that the correct header panel badge?
Oh he didnt get the sticker for the door.
I know,i suck at this game..
I dont know much about gtx's but that all i noticed,except little things like,in different pics the handles were turn for nor reason,and the floormat disapeerd in one.
By the way,is that the correct header panel badge?
Oh he didnt get the sticker for the door.
I know,i suck at this game..
"Sunny D"-1974 Plymouth Satellite Sebring With Sundance Packaging
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71440 gtx
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there arel lots things wrong on the 71 gtx
the bolts should be yellow not black on the front header panel
resonator on 440 4bbl
grille all black
esc decal on the fire wall its goes on the driver side inner fenner
the mopar decal on master is wrong
the wire looms on the 440
the rad no parts numbers on it
Upper interior door panels are 71 road runner with decor or rh
the bolts should be yellow not black on the front header panel
resonator on 440 4bbl
grille all black
esc decal on the fire wall its goes on the driver side inner fenner
the mopar decal on master is wrong
the wire looms on the 440
the rad no parts numbers on it
Upper interior door panels are 71 road runner with decor or rh
71 gtx 440 4speed air grabber blue on blue with white vinyl roofOption cassette player
Plymouth's gonna getcha!
There are 3 things that will live forever, cockroaches, Keith Richards, & slant 6
Plymouth's gonna getcha!
There are 3 things that will live forever, cockroaches, Keith Richards, & slant 6
Well overall its a very pretty car its doesn't have to be 'correct' for it to be one. I'm just always searching the net for as many examples of '71 and '72 b bodies that I can find and normally I tend to focus a bit more on GTXs.
My car restoration is a few yrs off and I'm thinking I want take her back to close to what she was like from factory and to do that I'm going to need to know what is correct and what isn't. After all 37 yrs is a long time that a lot of cars out there have been altered and not to mention the # of ppl that tend to try to remake GTXs out of something else.
Eventually I hope to become as knowledgeable about these b bodies as some of ppl around here and not just about GTXs but Road Runners and Satellites.
My car restoration is a few yrs off and I'm thinking I want take her back to close to what she was like from factory and to do that I'm going to need to know what is correct and what isn't. After all 37 yrs is a long time that a lot of cars out there have been altered and not to mention the # of ppl that tend to try to remake GTXs out of something else.
Eventually I hope to become as knowledgeable about these b bodies as some of ppl around here and not just about GTXs but Road Runners and Satellites.
1971 GTX Autumn Bronze - 4 speed, Dana 60 4:10
Well, just looking very quickly at the first photo...
all 71 GTXs had the body side pinstripe (and most that are restored are missing it), also the hood to fender decal should end above the pinstripe (and obviously then above the body character line).
I'll try to spend more time looking at it later
all 71 GTXs had the body side pinstripe (and most that are restored are missing it), also the hood to fender decal should end above the pinstripe (and obviously then above the body character line).
I'll try to spend more time looking at it later
AKA Butterscotch71....the road runner nest is out to win you over this year!
Ok, since it's a flipper selling it I don't feel bad about criticising. It does look like a very nice car, but not concourse correct, and not a 90 out of a 100 as advertised...
Besides the already mentioned items, here are a few:
hood pins are missing the cables?
inner door should be painted black at rear (inside weatherstripping)
appears to have the later style non-adjustable antenna
missing VIN decal on door
in addition to above mentioned hood/fender stripes, they should wrap the fender slightly into the engine compartment
brake booster should be gold cad not black
heat stove flex pipe is incorrect material
distributor cap should be tan
spark plug wires should have orange ends
incorrect clamps on rad. hose
missing clamps on breather hoses
distrubutor vac advance should be silver not gold
PCV valve and grommet were on the engine when painted (should be orange)
original spare would be a black painted steel wheel
trunk lock strike and bolts should be painted body color, not plated
incorrect bolts on trunk lock strike (washers look too big)
missing heavy undercoating on inner quarterpanels (visible from trunk)
over-restored undercarriage
trans pan was steel, not painted black
LCAs were either dipped in black paint or coated in cosmoline, not silver
lots of suspension hardware looks like incorrect plating
nice blue shocks
Not trying to trash anyone's car here, just trying to help point out what is incorrect for someone who wants to learn.
BTW, I've seen original radiator support antifreeze decals in several different locations, usually centered or toward the drivers side though. Just depended on where the assembly line worker wanted to put them! Also, 440 4v cars weren't automatically equipped with resonator exhaust.
Besides the already mentioned items, here are a few:
hood pins are missing the cables?
inner door should be painted black at rear (inside weatherstripping)
appears to have the later style non-adjustable antenna
missing VIN decal on door
in addition to above mentioned hood/fender stripes, they should wrap the fender slightly into the engine compartment
brake booster should be gold cad not black
heat stove flex pipe is incorrect material
distributor cap should be tan
spark plug wires should have orange ends
incorrect clamps on rad. hose
missing clamps on breather hoses
distrubutor vac advance should be silver not gold
PCV valve and grommet were on the engine when painted (should be orange)
original spare would be a black painted steel wheel
trunk lock strike and bolts should be painted body color, not plated
incorrect bolts on trunk lock strike (washers look too big)
missing heavy undercoating on inner quarterpanels (visible from trunk)
over-restored undercarriage
trans pan was steel, not painted black
LCAs were either dipped in black paint or coated in cosmoline, not silver
lots of suspension hardware looks like incorrect plating
nice blue shocks
Not trying to trash anyone's car here, just trying to help point out what is incorrect for someone who wants to learn.
BTW, I've seen original radiator support antifreeze decals in several different locations, usually centered or toward the drivers side though. Just depended on where the assembly line worker wanted to put them! Also, 440 4v cars weren't automatically equipped with resonator exhaust.
AKA Butterscotch71....the road runner nest is out to win you over this year!
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and the wheel lip moulding that came on a gtx and ssp is not on that gtx
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71 gtx 440 4speed air grabber blue on blue with white vinyl roofOption cassette player
Plymouth's gonna getcha!
There are 3 things that will live forever, cockroaches, Keith Richards, & slant 6
Plymouth's gonna getcha!
There are 3 things that will live forever, cockroaches, Keith Richards, & slant 6
Ok most of what Eric said went over my head and I see I'm in trouble when I get around to restoring mine... I'm not sure if I will ever know that much.
I called it a little game cause it reminded me of the stuff you would see as a child in a coloring book where they always had a pic that had you circle the things you spot wrong and then you could turn the picture on its side or upside down to read what was wrong with the pic.
I know I spotted a few things wrong but damn.... I got a lot to learn. I didnt mean to make a thread to slag on someone's car but when he claims its 'correct' and his business is restoring cars then I don't feel so bad.
Actually the link from the guy's main web page lists the car as 'not for sale' but the wording on the page seems to differ.
I called it a little game cause it reminded me of the stuff you would see as a child in a coloring book where they always had a pic that had you circle the things you spot wrong and then you could turn the picture on its side or upside down to read what was wrong with the pic.
I know I spotted a few things wrong but damn.... I got a lot to learn. I didnt mean to make a thread to slag on someone's car but when he claims its 'correct' and his business is restoring cars then I don't feel so bad.
Actually the link from the guy's main web page lists the car as 'not for sale' but the wording on the page seems to differ.
1971 GTX Autumn Bronze - 4 speed, Dana 60 4:10
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i learn.a lots from hereRS23 '71 wrote:Ok most of what Eric said went over my head and I see I'm in trouble when I get around to restoring mine... I'm not sure if I will ever know that much.
I called it a little game cause it reminded me of the stuff you would see as a child in a coloring book where they always had a pic that had you circle the things you spot wrong and then you could turn the picture on its side or upside down to read what was wrong with the pic.
I know I spotted a few things wrong but damn.... I got a lot to learn. I didnt mean to make a thread to slag on someone's car but when he claims its 'correct' and his business is restoring cars then I don't feel so bad.
Actually the link from the guy's main web page lists the car as 'not for sale' but the wording on the page seems to differ.
that why you me and the rest come here to learn help the 71 -74 b-body guys
71 gtx 440 4speed air grabber blue on blue with white vinyl roofOption cassette player
Plymouth's gonna getcha!
There are 3 things that will live forever, cockroaches, Keith Richards, & slant 6
Plymouth's gonna getcha!
There are 3 things that will live forever, cockroaches, Keith Richards, & slant 6
Well it is a very pretty car. I kinda like just the green & black combo and the way all the chrome on the car has either been painted green or black. It does really make a strong graphic statement but with that said no way am I getting into what doesnt look correct.71440 gtx wrote:71 gtx on e bay Item number: 130205077214
Man those seat covers look like they are one size to big and they look like they have been armor alled so much if you tried to sit in them you would slip right off.
What's the deal with the big red rubber wienie looking thing wrapped up around the tach?1971 GTX Autumn Bronze - 4 speed, Dana 60 4:10