Subframe Connector Help?

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Subframe Connector Help?

Post by Diriccatiticka » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:40 pm

I got a few toys recently and I'm eyeballin' the subframe connectors for my '72. Anyone ever install these? If so what brand? Weld in? Bolt in?

It's basically a stock car frame/body-wise. I got the leaf spring relocation kit waiting to go in, as well as a new set of Super Stock springs since my old ones are twisted up. Just wanna know what you guys have worked with, because I couldn't really find anything on Google installing these in our cars. A bunch of A-bodies and cars up to 1970 was all I could find.

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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by farmboy70 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:09 pm

Here is a link to when I installed a set on my Challenger.
http://s640.photobucket.com/albums/uu12 ... ?start=all

Sorry when I loaded the album I didn't make sub albums, but there are pictures of the install.
I used US CARTOOL parts. They fit well but with any brand there is going to be some fab work to do.
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by bruce » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:35 pm

US Car Tool on mine as well. My car was sort of a prototype for them and their '71 and up B-Body connectors. :)
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by 71ChallengerSE » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:42 pm

US Car Tool for me too. John gave me a set when I was down there picking up my Demon.
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by road chicken » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:01 am

I used the MPP units. Bolted them in first then eventually welded them in place. There is a minimum of cutting the floor with these. Just the rear floor. Big difference in the way the car handles.
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by bruce » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:25 am

Oh, and don't forget, torque boxes will help too. Shoot, Car Tool offers a whole unibody strengthening kit that will get you all kinds of bracing to weld in. Also, if you really want to talk stiff, weld in a cage or roll bar and weld up the seams in the body solid--that will contribute to a stiffer unibody rather than one just held together with spot welds...
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by NOrrTH » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:03 pm

With welding in sub-frame connectors, how do you seal the welds on the inside so they dont rust, or is that something not to worry about?

With torque boxes there is a hole, so you can spray inside after they're welded in.
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by farmboy70 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:09 pm

Drill access holes in the floor pan inside the bar. Then body plugs for the wholes, all covered by carpet.
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by Diriccatiticka » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:04 pm

You guys are awesome. Thanks for all the replies.

Lot of rough stuff has been going on by me lately. Sorry I haven't been back. I remember looking at XV's connectors, but read in a mopar magazine that they weren't quite as rigid as they hoped, but were better than nothing.

I wouldn't mind going all out and putting a cage and a four link in, but it's just too expensive, I don't have the tools to do something like that. I plan on keeping this thing forever anyway. Maybe one day.

I ran all-new 1/2" aluminum fuel lines this past summer, but it looks like I gotta cut it all up again so I can do the leaf relocation and subframe connectors. Exhaust has to go too, move the electric fuel pump somewhere else, it's going to get complicated mighty fast. I saw Competition Engineering sold some connectors with the relocation built in, but they said it needed rear frame rails too, and I don't have the right equipment to back-half the car. The torque boxes are a great idea too. I'm going to have to look up US Car Tool and see what we can come up with.
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Re: Subframe Connector Help?

Post by 72RoadRunnerGTX » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:24 pm

These are US Car Tool e-body frame connectors modified and installed on my 72’ b-body.
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