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Brake questions

Post by rr6pak » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:05 pm

I have some questions and I'm looking for advice on brakes for my 71. I have HD power drums. I want to change it over to discs.

1. I was told that my MC and booster will not work with the discs. Where can I get a new one. I'm looking at keeping an original look to the engine bay.

2. Anyone use a "kit"? Only thing about some of those kits is I dont like the booster (Chevy?)

3. If no kit, does anyone know what year of car models with disc will work on mine (ours)? I know theres a parts list somewhere that has a list of parts.

If I cant piece together a disc swap and consider a "kit", will an original or as near OE booster/MC work with a "kit"? Does this make sense? Its 2:30 in the a.m so bear with me if it doesnt...lol

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Re: Brake questions

Post by gcoupe72 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:21 pm

I've never used a kit, but converted a couple of cars to discs.

I believe your booster will work, I'd try it before buying another.

For exact match, you need front knuckles(spindles), rotors,calipers with brackets,hoses, and master cylinder from '70-'72 B or E body.

Almost Identical will be '73-4 E or '73-'76 A body knuckles and rotors. These have larger wheel

bearings, which will allow you to run either the stock '73- 11" rotor, or the '75- 11.75" B body rotor(with

different caliper brackets. Just don't plan on running 14" wheels with the 11.75" rotor set up.

Lots of different master cylinders will look correct. Just find one with lines on the same side as your drum brake set-up.
Price new rotors before making your final decision. Quite often the '73- stuff is a lot cheaper.

We can be more specific once you see what parts you can find.

And I agree 100% on your Chevy booster/master cylinder comments. Not on my Mopar!

Let us know how it goes.

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Re: Brake questions

Post by sdweatherman » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:48 am

Mopar Action did an extensive article on converting 62-72 B bodies to disc. The article can be found here:

http://www.moparaction.com/tech/archive/disc-main.html

This article shows how you can convert to discs using later model parts (mid to late 70s stuff). The advantage to this is the replacement rotors are much much cheaper. Original or replacement, correct for 70-72, rotors are very expensive. Napa has them for around $160 ea. :shock: While later model rotors are closer to $30-40. I am going the original equipment option for my front drum to disc upgrade since I have located spindles, calipers, and rotors for very reasonable. Good luck with whatever you decide!
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Re: Brake questions

Post by 72RoadRunnerGTX » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:13 am

Keep in mind DoctorDiff (moparts) makes bearing adapters that allow the later/larger rotors to fit the 70-72' spindles. With the correct later caliper adapters, it's a pretty straight bolt on conversion. Recent info posted here.
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Re: Brake questions

Post by 1bluegtx » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:35 pm

Don't forget to change the proportioning valve to one from a disc car,or adjustable one.
Your booster should work just change the master cylinder.
Any spindle,rotor,caliper set up from 73 up b,f,j,m,r body cars will bolt on.We have done this twice,IT WORKS FINE.

http://www.bigblockdart.com/techpages/spindles.shtml

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Re: Brake questions

Post by rr6pak » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:39 pm

Thanks to all that replied! Geat info. I was told that if I wanted an original appearing booster, it would have to be for a disc set up? :shock: . Yet I dont know or see the difference, now I'm questioning the person. I know thw MC would need to be changed. Also, I was told to make sure I get steel, not cast iron knuckles.

Doug and Brian thanks for the links. My car will be going into the body shop soon after when I get home next month. I wanted to start researching and acquiring the parts for the swap so I have everything needed. I'm gonna read in depth the articles and postings made so I get the right stuff.

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Post by 71440 gtx » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:24 pm

go here
http://challenger.mpoli.fi/board/topic-5442

#3579272, Midland Ross #C4600MC is the one for power disc :beer: :D

the1971 proportioning valve is not same one as the 72-74 one
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Re: Brake questions

Post by rr6pak » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:54 am

I was told that if I get the knuckles, to make sure theyre steel, not cast iron. Anyone know if this info is accurate? Know where to find the right ones?

Also, what about the upper and lower control arms? I'd like to use tubular upper and the original for the bottom. :)

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