making stock 72 satellite sebring plus go faster

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1cosmo

making stock 72 satellite sebring plus go faster

Post by 1cosmo » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:31 pm

I have a 72 satellite sebring plus with a 400 engine. I replaced the two barrel carb with a four barrel and an edelbrock intake. It has a slap stick auto transmission. When I step on it, it is slow to get going but once in second or third, if I step hard, the kickdown seems to work ok and I finally get going fast.

What can I do to make it go faster? A different rear end? a transmission shift kit? more engine modifications (i.e. cam, etc) or a different engine? :shock:

Thanks

Zeke
Modesto, California

juniork

Post by juniork » Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:11 am

what gears are in it now? a 4.10 would put a lot of power into the low end. A lot of the problem comes from you having too low of a compression ratio. If you got the money, invest in a set of edelbrock aluminum heads, a new cam and higher compression pistons, and a higher stall torque converter. You would be looking at a hell of a lot more hp then. Good luck

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high hp from stock

Post by JosephGiannini » Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:14 pm

First make sure everything is serviced. Ie torque converter flushed and resealed transmission serviced fully. same with rear end. also research what you have already and see if you want to blueprint and restore what you have.Before you invest in aluminum aftermarket parts. A lot of what you want out of your engine may be able to be achieved by drivetrain building.
Referencing you can use john cope of cope racing www.coperacingtrans.com or dts www.drivetrainspecialists.com these guys are more than happy to consult with you on the phone. Or strange engineering for rear ends www.strangengineering.com. But I would consult with drivetrain specialists before going into 4.11 gears to ensure you are going for the proper trans,driveshaft,rearend setup or else you can crack your tailshaft housing on your trans or unbalance a driveshaft or spin up your u joints. Also in a lot of applications mopar from 64-71 most of their production was high performance already. So before you go into cams and heads and pistons email me at neaokira3@comcast.net with your cast numbers and I can tell you if it is forged or cast or shot peened. When you change a camshaft you need to measure pushrods and rockerarm clearances when you degree the cam. Before you spend money. Maybe something as simple as rebuilding your rearend or perhaps restoring your torque converter and transmission. You can get hp out of fuel cooling. Ramming air and ignition setup. Maybe you want to recondition your heads at a machine shop. Or perhaps deck and flowbench them for highperformance gaskets or perhaps a o ring setup for high compression using lead additions. A good reference for head high performance would be www.aeroheadracing.com
I own a 340 850hp Dick landy industries spec engine god rest his soul.
A Mopar god Is dead.
1972 roadrunner.

71383bee

Post by 71383bee » Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:02 pm

Yeah before you start pulling axles there are a few thjings to improve first. Although gears is a definate increse in acceleration, it will suffer in mileage driveability etc.

Previous advice is good. There are 3 things that you can easily do:

1. I would upgade the ignition to a good electronic sytem. Contact Don at FBO Systems who designed and produced a killer mopar electronic ignition system that is a direct replacement of your current system. ie if you have an electronic ignition, there is no rewiring necessary just swap the distributor, coil, and the brain box and go have fun. I have personally used his equipment and for a street car it is as good or better that a jacobs, mallory, etc system. This thing looks stock and it works. Plus he'll re-curve your distribtor which is also a big help. Check out www.4secondsflat.com for details.

2. Exhaust! put some true duals on that sucker! If you have not already...this will reduce backpressure and increase flow. As with everything if you have the money get a 2 1/2" mandrel bent system with "X" pipe and headers. If not even a basic dual sytem from manifolds to tail pipes would help. Plus it sounds cool!

3. This is sort of in line with 1 but re adjust your timing. The 72 cars were way retarded in timing. Most were set around TDC or below. Make sure the car is warm and blocked. Start the car in idle with the vacum advance port plugged and a vacum gage in a manifold port and a timing light. If you don't have a vacum gage then go get one because next to a timing light it is one of the most useful tools we gearheads can use. Set initial timing @ idle to around 12 degrees BTDC. You should notice an imediate improvement in throttle response and the car should pick up in idle. In fact after timing is set you should reset the idle and mixture on the carb becaue it my need a bit more juice. Usually this is a pretty good setup to setting timing. If you really want to fine tune it you can run the motor up to about 2500RPM and adjust the total timing to around 34 degrees BTDC but this can be hard to do if you are by yourself. I've found that by setting it initially @ 12 BTDC you get farily close to 34 total + or - 2 degrees. This will probably be the most noticeable jump. If it is still close to stock it should run like a raped ape when it is set properly. If the car starts to detonate then it is advanced too far and it needs to be brought back. I did this on my puny 2BBl 318 before the rebuild and man what a difference. The same does apply for big blocks too.

Beyond these basic things you start looking at gears, shift kits, rebuilds, torque converters, etc. But for starters these 3 should give noticeable improvement.

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