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Strobe stripe questions

Post by BlackGTS » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:59 pm

For a 72 RR how do you determine if the stripe should be reflective or plain.

I attempted to put the stripe on but ended up with many little bubbles.It took more work and time to get it off than it did to put it on.I am going to get another stripe and try it again.My question is who sells the best quailty stripe?

My new canopy roof and interior are white and match each other but the stripe is a brighter white and the roof and interior are sort of creamy.Does this sound right?

Another problem is the chrome trim at the back of the canopy roof.It almost fits but not quite.It came with the car but wasn't on it when I bought it.Are 71-74 the same molding?

Thanks,Dave

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Post by 1972RM23 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:27 pm

71-72 strobe stripes are reflective.
Yours would be reflective white strobe and white canopy vinyl top.
Just like mine except white.
Performance car graphics I've heard good things from.
http://www.performancecargraphics.com/

Make sure when you place the stripe so it's close to the quarter windows and not too far back like everyone seems to do (incorrectly).
I thought I had a picture of this somewhere.
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Ripe for a Stripe

Post by scottish440 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:41 pm

here are the stripe mesurements...
Top center of the stripe is 8" from the back roof line and about 9" from
the window chrome.....

quote>>1972RM23<<Make sure when you place the stripe so it's close to
the quarter windows and not too far back like everyone seems to do
(incorrectly). << THIS IS THE TRUTH
The mesurement is 1.5" from the quarter window pillar edge.....

now that said...I have mesured several factory cars and they will vary a
quarter of an inch or so

I make the 71 reproduction kits and they are supposed to
reflective from the factory (gold, black, white) pretty sure this is the
same for 72.

If you need any help installing your kit I will be glad to give you some
super easy tips....no bubbles....DO NOT WET APPLY REFLECTIVE!


take care......scott
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Re: Ripe for a Stripe

Post by 1972RM23 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:26 pm

scottish440 wrote: THIS IS THE TRUTH
The mesurement is 1.5" from the quarter window pillar edge.....
YES!
Thank you for posting this ... TOO MANY ppl put the stripe far too back (almost centered in the c-pillar space).
It needs to be 1 1/2"!!!!
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Re: Ripe for a Stripe

Post by 72Rdrnner » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:54 am

scottish440 wrote:If you need any help installing your kit I will be glad to give you some super easy tips....no bubbles....DO NOT WET APPLY REFLECTIVE!
take care......scott
Quick question about the "DO NOT WET APPLY" comment as that was the technique I was going to use on my railroad track hood stripes. They are not reflective so does that make a difference?

The installation instructions that came with them give both methods of applying them and I just planned to use the wet one as it gives more wiggle room to get them right.

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Post by scottish440 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:08 pm

"DO NOT WET APPLY" only applies to reflective....reflective has a
metalized core and trapped moisture can result in stripe failure. This
type of material does not breath.

Your basic vinyl "breaths" and is porous under a microscope. Wet
applying this is just fine.

Dry apply works best around 55 degrees.(low temps will slow adhesion)

Wet Apply shoud be done above 70 degrees and up not much past 85.

/\ above is not the gospel...it is what i have found easier /\



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Post by mopar71 » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:00 pm

Must be tough to apply without wetting, I did my truck stipes and at least it is more forgiving.I could move it around till it got tacky and also easier to remove bubbles or air pockets. What is the best way to apply? Do you need 2 or more people? 8)
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Post by scottish440 » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:52 pm

Dry applying large pieces of vinyl is pretty difficult without wet applying.
But if you look at a strobe stripe it is only a series of small sections. So
thet said tape the stripe into place and use the hinge method.

Lift the material up with one side affixed firmly to your surface, peel back
the the wax paper liner (the carrier) start squeegeeing from the low side
firmly applying pressure in clean even stroke gradually lowering the
stripe as you squeegee ...being careful not to let the material touch..and
yes 2 people will make the job easier.

If you do get bubbles....do not use a pin!!!! Use a very sharp exacto blade
and penetrate the side of the bubble at a 45 degree angle the push the air
out from the other side. This most effective and unnoticeable.

Take your time and measure twice....apply small pieces of masking tape
along the edge of the stripe for registration.
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Post by mopar71 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:36 am

So you apply tape as a guide? And the strobe comes in sections? Thanks for the info! 8)
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Post by Eric » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:20 pm

I've always used stripes from Performance Car Graphics. Theirs, like the originals come in 3 sections, the roof and 2 sides. The individual strobes are held together with backing paper. I do the roof section first, locating the center on both the roof and the backing paper as well as locating it front to back (you'll have to use the side stripes to gauge this) and taping one side of the paper down. Then I just gradually peel the sticky side paper off as I'm adhereing the tape stripe. I've always used window cleaner to help move the tape around and get the bubbles out. Haven't personally had any problems with the reflective stuff....but I'd never heard it could be a problem...
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Strobe Stripe

Post by scottish440 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:36 pm

mopar71 wrote:So you apply tape as a guide? And the strobe comes in sections? Thanks for the info! 8)
Here is a pic of the stripe I sell...It is an exact copy of the original.
Basically you have three pieces as Eric has said.. the over the top section
and the two pieces for the sides.....I have these in Gold, Black, and White
reflective. The birds are applied seperately...I sell the kit for $100 along with
the decals it comes with 2 sets of application instructions and a
squeegee. The birds are seperate and is an easy purchase on e-bay....

note on the birds: I have bought several sets of birds off of ebay and
some of them come in(from various vendors) "Non Reflective" this is not
correct I do not believe....so be sure to ask.

I also make the 1973 rr stripe....it is an excellent repro...I just have
gotten a 72 roadrunner in and I am in the process of duplicating it...


take care all....Scott
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new vinyl

Post by scottish440 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:01 pm

My e-mail is moriah777@newwavecomm.net

I also carry:

gtx hood stripes
tank trac hood stripes
71-72 airgrabber transverse srtipes(the hood stripes and decklid)fairly rare option
hood call-outs (all cid and custom cid)
73 roadrunner stripe full kit(with hood and call-outs)
Standard circle header decal (says plymouth, plymouth) for 71
Modified header decal(says plymouth, roadrunner) for 71 this is pretty cool

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Post by mopar71 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:22 pm

Scott, do you have a pic of that sounds cool, I need the rear blackout, do you have that?
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Stripes in Line

Post by scottish440 » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:09 am

Well that is in line to be made....soon hopefuly....I want to catalouge all of the 71-72 roadrunner gtx stripes....

btw I am looking for any unusual stripes or experimental decals documentation and or pictures of them....thanks scott
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Post by 1972RM23 » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:09 am

like these?
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