Alternator brackets

[BillS]

I'm in the process of putting a '72 440 HP in my '74. Does anynoe have a tech print or drawing of how the alternator brackets are setup? All my stuff was in boxes. A second question: how/where does the vapor separator mount near the fuel pump?

[landon1]

maybe you can get something out of this - if nobody else posts, i can get some better pics tomorrow - basically, though, the curved piece goes on the bottom, the i guess "T"shaped piece is on top, then there is an approx 2.5" spacer taht goes between it and the bolt hole in the head...pretty simple - the power steering brackets had me and my pops stumped for about a half hour, though

[72Rdrnner]

I'm in the process of putting a '72 440 HP in my '74. Does anynoe have a tech print or drawing of how the alternator brackets are setup? All my stuff was in boxes. A second question: how/where does the vapor separator mount near the fuel pump?

Here's a couple of pictures of the brackets on a '72 440 with a/c and power steering. If memory serves me right the idler pulley is only used on engines with a/c as without it the waterpump is driven by the same belt the alternator uses and it's a single belt. I replaced the stock "V Twin" compressor with a Sanden rotary unit but the belts/brackets are the same.






The vapor separator mounts on the front bolt of the fuel pump. I don't have a pix of that handy, but will try and remember to get one tomorrow and post it here.

[SureGrip]

Sorry this is such a late bump, but it's odd to see that layout.

I have a '71 with 440 (it's a '75 block and a mix of parts) but it has A/C and PS on it and there is one belt that goes around the crank, A/C pulley, and alternator, there is another belt that runs around the waterpump, crank and PS pulley.

I was told that if you don't have A/C, you need to mount the PS pump up higher on the block to take the place of the A/C compressor.

[72Rdrnner]

Sorry this is such a late bump, but it's odd to see that layout.

I have a '71 with 440 (it's a '75 block and a mix of parts) but it has A/C and PS on it and there is one belt that goes around the crank, A/C pulley, and alternator, there is another belt that runs around the waterpump, crank and PS pulley.

I was told that if you don't have A/C, you need to mount the PS pump up higher on the block to take the place of the A/C compressor.

Hmmm....that is an odd one. How many pulleys do you have on your crankshaft? My engine has 4, which is the way it came. (I know, I bought the car new). The outermost (to the front) pulley almost looks like it has been added as the other three pulley groves are in a single large pulley. It might be that your engine (or crank, or crank pulley) may not have been on an original 440 with a/c and p/s. Another thought, there is a 440 and a high performance 400. There is a pad on the front left top of the block that will have "HP" on it for the high performance engines. Just a thought but that might be the difference, although I don't know that for sure.

[SureGrip]

Yeah, this motor is a mutt of all sorts of parts from all different years, but they routed the belts as I mentioned. it's a 1975 440 block, standard, non-HP.

I do have the 4-groove crank pulley, the forward-most 2 of them have no belts, the AC/alternator is running off groove 3, PS belt is running off groove 4 (rear-most groove).

I have a monstorous 100amp alternator mounted at the same height as the AC pulley.

I have the feeling that, after counting all the different alternator/PS pump/AC compressor/Water pump combos out over the years, there are as many different combos as there are stars in the sky.

[72Rdrnner]

I think being a '75 might make a difference too. There might have been a air pump on it. I don't remember when that came to being as mine had minimal "emissions" stuff. As you can see on mine the rear two belts drive the a/c and alternator. With the p/s next forward and the water pump (with idler pulley) on the front one.

Just another star in the galaxy!