Fender Tag

Hotrod Hangar · Post by **Hotrod Hangar** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:19 am

Hello everybody,

i have just finished restoring my 1972er roadrunner/gtx and wonder if somebody could help me on some fendertag decoding issues. I could decode any numbers appart the followong: M23

Actually i found out that only 219 cars with the 4 speed manual transmission were build in 1972. Does anybody know how i can find out how many of those cars meet my specifications (like black/black trim and so on)

As i am based in vienna/europe and fairly new in the roadrunner field please apologize my lack of perfect english and may be some questions that might be unexperienced.

Thanks
Christian

1972RM23 · Post by **1972RM23** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:34 pm

I can't find a code M23 for 1972.
M code are for moldings ... like sill moldings M21.

71runnerm51 · Post by **71runnerm51** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:20 pm

you can find out how many came with a 4 speed or how many were black , but there is no combinations
4 speed/black no data available

...hope this helps

Hotrod Hangar · Post by **Hotrod Hangar** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:43 am

Thanks for your response!
Undortunately I did not fin a broadcast sheet in the car.
Would you know where I can find out how many were build in black.
Below I added the fender tag decoding of my car if anyone is interested.

Another thing you might have experience with: when i open the windows the passenger cabin fills with exhaust fumes. I checked the trunk weatherstrip but it seemes to be ok....

Thanks
Christian

Code
Description
E86
440-4 Barrel High Preformance
D21
Heavy Duty 4-Speed Manual Transmission
RM23
R = Plymouth Road Runner
M = Medium
23 = 2 Door Hardtop
U2R
U = 440 280HP(net) or 290HP(net) 1-4BBL 8 CYL
2 = 1972
R = Windsor, ONT, CAN
324294
Sequence Number '324294'
TX9
Paint Code: Black / Black Velvet
D6X9
Trim Grade/Style/Color
D = Deluxe
6 = Vinyl Bucket Seats
X9 = Black
TX9
Upper Door Frame: Black / Black Velvet
506
Date Built: 5 / 06 / 1972
159174
Order Number: 159174
TX9
Roof Type OR Color: Black / Black Velvet
U
Built to Specifications for USA Order
26
26 in. Radiator
C12
Shoulder Belts
C16
Console w/ Buckets
C56
Bucket Seats 1972 up
G37
Left Hand Remote, Right Hand Manual Chrome Mirrors
J45
Hood Tie Down Pins
J52
Inside Hood Release
M21
Roof Drip Rail Moldings
M23
Unknown At This Time
N41
Duel Exhaust w/o Tips
N76
Coolant Recovery System
N85
Tachometer
R11
Music Master Radio AM
END
End of code

moparite · Post by **moparite** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:04 am

Another thing you might have experience with: when i open the windows the passenger cabin fills with exhaust fumes. I checked the trunk weatherstrip but it seemes to be ok....

Does the car have any rust holes in the trunk floor pan or anywhere else that the exhaust can get in?

I looked up how many 71's came in black some time ago cause i got a parts car that was originally black. I was wondering the same thing. You don't see to many in black. Well the # was low compared to the rest with exception of some of the high impact paints. I would imagine it wouldn't be to much different for 72. Those little white books that Galen Govier sells have all kind of info in them. well worth the $ if you want detailed production #'s etc..
http://www.gvgovier.com/whitebooks.htm

Oh yea, We like pics.

ILUV72RRs · Post by **ILUV72RRs** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:25 am

I looked up your VIN number in the '72 RRs I have written down over the years, and I had it in my information. Which included the fender tag. It shows a N23 code, not M23. Which would be electronic ignition.

Hotrod Hangar · Post by **Hotrod Hangar** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:07 pm

Thank you very much!

71440 gtx · Post by **71440 gtx** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:27 pm

R- stands for the satellite model line

L - stands for low price class
M - stands for medium price class
H - stands for high price class
P - stands for premium price class
S - stands for special price class

Together they designate the model of your car.

RL - satellite model, low price
RM - road runner, medium price
RH - satellite sebring, high price
RP - satellite sebring plus
rs gtx 67-71
Letters must be together to form make, when letters are separated some people may think that all cars with R are road runner
Example

my 71 gtx - RS23U1R

R GTX
S special price

so that mens the R are a gtxs wrong

Letters must be together to form make

71ChallengerSE · Post by **71ChallengerSE** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:14 pm

71440 gtx wrote: so that mens the R are a gtxs wrong
Letters must be together to form make

Except his is a Road Runner, it just has a gtx package.

72RoadRunnerGTX · Post by **72RoadRunnerGTX** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:19 am

71ChallengerSE wrote:just has a gtx package.

No such package, there was never a package or option officially titled “GTX” for model years 72-74’. Simply, if you ordered a Road Runner with one of the optional 440 engines, the car was called a “Road Runner GTX” ,using the RM vin prefix, came with dual badging and a higher trim level similar to the 71’ “Satellite GTX”.

Post by **bruce** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:22 am

ILUV72RRs wrote:I looked up your VIN number in the '72 RRs I have written down over the years, and I had it in my information. Which included the fender tag. It shows a N23 code, not M23. Which would be electronic ignition.

It really IS a small, small Mopar world.

ILUV72RRs · Post by **ILUV72RRs** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:52 am

You may think that because a '72 RR is a RR/GTX model that it has a higher trim level. Such is not the case. I've got serial numbers for '72 RR/GTXs that have the base el cheapo bench seat interior in them. It's the 440 in the car that makes it a RR/GTX (serial numbered), nothing else.

72RoadRunnerGTX · Post by **72RoadRunnerGTX** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:04 pm

Didn't say that, as with previous models named with the GTX suffix, I was referring to exterior trim primarily, belt, sill & wheel lip moldings specifically. May be an ordering coincidence as I can’t locate any backup in the order information that would support an automatic tie in to the engine option, but have yet to see a u-coded 72’ without them, now that you mention it, I don’t think I’ve seen a bench seated 72’ u-code either. These moldings (except the sill) are part of the A87 décor group along with the Deluxe steering wheel. In my car’s case, it had a standard wheel, not so sure it was ordered with the Décor group yet had a full set of moldings.

ILUV72RRs · Post by **ILUV72RRs** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:47 pm

Generally the majority of the 72 RR/GTXs have buckets & deluxe trim. But when you run into a naked one, it's sort of a jolt. Here's numbers for one that was on ebay in the last couple of years. Pretty rusty, and needed complete restoration: E86 D21 RM23 U2G 184136; GF7 B2F6 GF7 403 313008; GF7 U M21 N23 N41 N76; R11 26 END. At least it was a 4-spd car, and came with a radio. I was always sort of disappointed that only the 4-spd RR/GTX came with a Dana rearend. The automatics came with an 8 3/4 rearend in them. The metallic blue 4-speed RR/GTX I had years ago didn't come with M23 trim on it. So I installed that on it. The kid I sold the car to didn't like M23 trim, and so he removed it, and filled all the holes. Wish I had that car today. It was a lot of fun.

72RoadRunnerGTX · Post by **72RoadRunnerGTX** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:16 am

M23 trim? Do you mean belt moldings(M31)? As determined above, pretty sure M23 does not exist. I don’t care for them as well and couldn’t stomach having screw/clip holes in the panels/doors to secure them correctly. I welded all the holes closed and removed the studs. I have considered ways to install them without drilling holes should the urge to be correct overtake my dislike of their appearance someday.

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